The Death of Law | Falcon and the Winter Soldier

2021-ж., 29-апр.
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Falcon and Winter Soldier, AND the problem with superheroes enforcing the law.

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier has been Marvel's latest offering in a year still starved for good media. And while we hoped for the best, we didn't necessarily expect such a deep and thoughtful interrogation of America, law, and justice. We'll explain in this Wisecrack Edition: The Death of Law | Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
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00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Refugees and the Decline of Human Rights
4:55 - The Rise of the State of Exception
7:52 - Violence Outside The Law
11:12 - Conclusion
Written by Alec Opperman
Hosted by Michael Burns
Directed by Michael Luxemburg
Editing & Motion Graphics by Riley A
Video Title Card by Amanda Murphy
Produced by Evan Yee
Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound
#falconandwintersoldier #marvel #captainamerica

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  • Falcon and The Winter Soldier series is a very underrated show.

    THE DOCTORTHE DOCTOR5 саат мурун
  • Saying that Marvel is pulling their punches by playing it safe is easy. Saying that Marvel is sincerely trying to tackle complex societal issues in a very blunt and ham-fisted manner because they sincerely think that's all there is to it... Well, there's a reason why politics are so controversial in this day and age.

    Mark346533243Mark3465332435 саат мурун
  • They're pulling their punches

    AA6 саат мурун
  • Such a stupid pile of woke crap.

    david ludwigdavid ludwig15 саат мурун
  • Wandavision sucked, but falcon and WS was so much worse. Did you notice Sam is black? That seems to be the dominant point. No thanks.

    david ludwigdavid ludwig15 саат мурун
  • Do "The Expanse" next!

    The Ethicist Philosophy ShowThe Ethicist Philosophy Show16 саат мурун
  • The show actually had me going for a bit when it started. A shame.

    Anti-MatteringAnti-MatteringКүн мурун
  • We can’t make an omelet without braking a few eggs on both sides to come together and create the color purple.

    Eyanosa SiouxEyanosa SiouxКүн мурун
  • Hey Wisecrack, review the Angel A movie, it's one of the best movies ever made

    Mark DrifterMark DrifterКүн мурун
  • what happend to Jared?

    Andy TTAndy TTКүн мурун
  • I think it's pretty clear that John Walker broke the law. Nico posed no immediate threat, and no matter the law he had broken, the punishment isn't summary execution.

    Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
  • The ending was pretty racist ngl

    Zeo •Zeo •Күн мурун
  • I’m just tired of having forced politics in superhero movies

    CIACIAКүн мурун
  • 11:24 - Is there ANY reason at all to censor that at all? ANY AT ALL?🤦🏾‍♂️

    Keiji JohnsonKeiji JohnsonКүн мурун
  • Anyone else hate all the pc,political bullshite in the show,and how they tried to make you sympathize with al terrorists?

    john jonesjohn jonesКүн мурун
  • This is really about declining values of Capt America (big surprise in this day and age) and about heroism as moral courage, in addition to the need for their existence to INSPIRE others. The idea is to deconstruction of the superheroes, and re-identifying them. We have gone through considerable division and FORCED unity. Their is no problem with superheroes infocing the law, it is deconstruction and subverted expectations of heroic canon and journey and awarding those that had no merit and substituting diversity as opposed to earning a backstory. This was enforcing the REFUGEE aspect In a time of reinforcing IDENTITY/Sovereignty, particularly when powerful countries forcing their regime changes and imposing on their Democracy.

    SuperOmnicronSuperOmnicronКүн мурун
  • “Bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, will lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows compassion” -Dr Erskine

    Val MidVal MidКүн мурун
  • Americans pretending to give a shit about violating Libyan airspace was such a cynical fucked line

    Militaires Sans FrontièresMilitaires Sans FrontièresКүн мурун
  • the show tried to tackle some big themes and that is awesome, I commend them for trying. but good lord they messed up the execution, it was just so....bad :/

    D I R E C T R U L E F R O M P E T R O G R A DD I R E C T R U L E F R O M P E T R O G R A DКүн мурун
  • Nice Heavy Slime sweater!

    Tad TruTad TruКүн мурун
  • I think Marvel is doing brilliantly on pointing out new directions for the MCU with contemporary very important themes. I was more concerned that they would do more of the same, but taking Wandavision and Falcon and the Winter soldier in consideration, I am more excited than ever to see how this will play out!

    Yuri SantosYuri SantosКүн мурун
  • Anyone catch that police officer scene? Cop makes a dumb mistake, black man escalates and refuses ID, white buddy de-escalates the situation but gets arrested for unrelated outstanding warrant. Someone ‘splain this wisdom to me...

    Chris deVeraChris deVeraКүн мурун
    • @dexdrako they were in an altercation in public, cops were justified to ask for ID, Sam simply should have provided it. Why do you this you think it was written like that? Ur wrong buddy

      Chris deVeraChris deVeraКүн мурун
    • "black man escalates and refuses ID" first off this view is wrong on every possible front. people are not mandated to have ID on they at every second nor do they have to show ID to the police. so refusing to show ID can never be an escalation because its not violating the rules the cops work within. the idea that you have to comply with everything a cop says is wrong and cause alot of the problems we face.

      dexdrakodexdrakoКүн мурун
  • Falcon & Winter Soldier is nuanced, anti-woke, and American, I loved it. I’m sure some liberals are already labeling Sam an Uncle Tom. I get it. If I was a rad-lib Flag Smasher who just got smashed on by a black man wielding the American Flag, I’d be confused mad too.

    Chris deVeraChris deVeraКүн мурун
  • I think Karli is the perfect example of a radical revoulutionarys paradox. People like Fidel Castro, Che Guevera and others rise up with good intentions but end up becoming those they detest. John Walker represents the pawn in diplomatic hierchays a man shaped by service and idealogy. The root of nationailism is a value of the image or the idea. But you see actions and consequences and you see they are no better then anyone else. They are opposite sides of the same coin

    Luis RendonLuis Rendon2 күн мурун
  • And Palestinian can't go back to their land

    okhmgm88okhmgm882 күн мурун
  • Why was “bullsh*t” beeped out but not “godd*mn”? Weird censorship there.

    DragonSinOfWrath MeliodasDragonSinOfWrath Meliodas2 күн мурун
    • I have never heard of "damn" being censored wtf....Does that even count as a swear word?

      Joe WatersJoe WatersКүн мурун
  • Where the fuck is Jared

    DaVaughn PalmerDaVaughn Palmer2 күн мурун
  • Isn't this basically Zemo's entire thesis? Superheroes in and of themselves are a State of Exception because the entire justification is who is going to literally stop the super billionaire who can make super weapons the government has never seen before... or The Hulk who can just roid out and smash literally everything. There is a literal fucking magic man running around who can do like ten million things that you and I could barely even dream of... Said Wizard (sorcerer... sorry Sam)... has an entire magic police force for magic crimes. Like the entire world is predicated on States of Exception. With Mutants hopefully coming soon like this gets even worse because then we break into this whole concept of a literal secondary society of people who have powers that a normal human can't protect themselves from... what the fuck do you do in regular civil society when there are people who ought as well be called gods running around? I guess what I am saying is what makes Sam better than John or even Steve is there is no exception in his blood... nothing that makes him different than you or I, except the good he wants to do. HE isn't the Exception by sheer force of power.

    Ethan HornEthan Horn2 күн мурун
  • You guys made me sympathize more with the shows antagonist views than 6 episodes did. Makes the struggle seem much clearer and urgent

    halfbakedretardhalfbakedretard2 күн мурун
  • This is a damn good video.

    jalabi99jalabi992 күн мурун
  • We have to remember that the C*A always checks the Superheroe movies in order to be distributed

    604 Morga López Azariel Nicolás604 Morga López Azariel Nicolás2 күн мурун
  • I guess they’re just a glitch in the law.

    Pablo Quijada SalazarPablo Quijada Salazar2 күн мурун
  • I am pretty sure you are just reading way too much into bad script. Or more acuratelly, you are asking the questions it's writers wanted you to ask instead of the ones this show actually represents. Nothing in this show was earned, they just wanted certain things to happen but never did the work to actually get there, exhibit A: Birdperson caring more about the leader of terrorist group than anybody else in the whole show like she's his long lost sister. John Walker is EVIL because the show paints him as such despite his backstory and actions make him the most morally upstanding character in the show. Oh no, he got the shield from the government and killed a murderous terrorist, Steve never did that. Flagsmashers are morally grey because they are sad. Nope, they are just even more retarded Antifa going around, killing people and destroying property because they liked the world better when half of the population was dead and there was pleanty of resources to go around. And when politician starts making valid points about the complicated situation Captain Birdperson turns into Captain Thunberg and demans solutions without offering any. Complaining about international juisdictions goes out the window when everybody seems to do whatever they want and it becames a problem only when story demands it. Bucky is under supervision but he and Birdperson are apparently unrestricted in their actions but state sanctioned Captain America isn't, Wakandan SS just walks in their super recognizable clothes and holding spears apparently free to murder Captain America if he gives them a friendly pat on the shoulder and the finaly lesson of the story is "This internationl committee, created to resettle people where they belong instead of where they want to be, should apparently abuse their power to do massive changes in society because terrorist were sad.". Don't even get me started on the forced racial angle. The only reasonable moment was Birdperson talking with the kid about "Black Falcon", the rest was just bunch of people believing the world revolves around the race and I am sick of tired of that being everywhere these days.

    Nazael RahlNazael Rahl2 күн мурун
  • Sam looks so damn good as Cap! I CAN NOT WAIT to see him in his own movie!!!!!

    Richard ServelloRichard Servello2 күн мурун
    • I just hope they stick to the "no serum" thing.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
  • This show was SO well done! I love that there's really no "villains". Well...the power broker (carter) thing was the closest to a villain...but super weak.

    Richard ServelloRichard Servello2 күн мурун
  • If I had a nickel for every time Erin Kellyman played the/an antagonist in a spin-off series who was actually morally in the right (or at least had some very good points), I'd have two nickels...which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. P.S.: The other time was Enfys Nest in Solo

    fairy Empressivefairy Empressive3 күн мурун
  • WHEN"S INVINCIBLE!?

    Mic VillainMic Villain3 күн мурун
  • lol. we all know how much the US respects the Libyan border. Literally the shows whole thesis is "if we acknowledge harm, without doing anything to repair it, or redistribute wealth or power that resulted from it, then things are better." The politicians get a firm talking to, feel bad, and decide to allow millions of people to... continue living in refugee camps. Plus the way it approaches race, skips over the massive level of racism and xenophobia that are inherent in repatriating people from historically poorer black and brown nations, who moved to wealthier areas after the blip, back to those nations after the disproportionately white original residents of the wealthy nations return. The show does nothing to deal with this or explore it- keeping issues of race and refugee status largely separated into two different arcs of the story. I have no idea how you watch this show and spend the last episode rooting for Bucky or Sam.

    Ian MatchettIan Matchett3 күн мурун
  • I think the true perspective of whoever is writing the story will put their spin on who is good and bad. Deep moments for sure, but not enlightening.

    William GoldWilliam Gold3 күн мурун
  • Since people were watching Sam pontificate over the TV, well guess what. That's not how broadcast TV works. Law enforcement would have cordoned off the area from civilians (for their own safety) and the press usually waits up near a press podium or try to capture imagery from a distance. Sam's conversations with the GRC officials would have never been caught on camera. Or at least there would have been no audio since it's not like the press would have mic'ed up the place.

    Petro Paolo AguilarPetro Paolo Aguilar3 күн мурун
  • I laughed out loud when he said "stop calling them terrorists" They only blew up a building full of people and tried to drive a van of hostages off a cliff

    HalfLucanHalfLucan3 күн мурун
    • @Ivan Ruban yeah like do better and you are god. Sam was downright dumb in the show.

      Anurag LambaAnurag Lamba9 саат мурун
    • Think with your heart not just your head.

      Shadow LingShadow LingКүн мурун
    • I think the "they" in that statement was not the flagsmasher, but the refuges of the world in general. The GRC was going to herd everyone, not just one person, so it'd make sense that is not morally right and Cap has a reason to step in and say something.

      Ivan RubanIvan RubanКүн мурун
    • The point is that it isn't really helping. It doesn't. Yes, she shouldn't have done what she did. Of course, she had to be stopped. But demonizing her doesnt solve the problem. And if you dont solve the problem, you are just asking for more Karlis, especially if Nagels research survived somehow.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
    • @The Fan Without a Face as she said, his life doesn't matter

      Mr. Horror AnimationsMr. Horror AnimationsКүн мурун
  • Fuck the Dora milajhe

    Markus IonescuMarkus Ionescu3 күн мурун
  • This show sux in it's depiction of death. I mean in the first scene dozzens of ppl die in combat. But when one dude gets punched to death (out of nowhere btw) and then that's tragic. Not to mention we saw bucky kick a dude trough a wall just seconds befor and that was fine appereantly

    Koen Diepen, vanKoen Diepen, van3 күн мурун
  • People who were hyped for a Dumb Silly Buddy Cop Action were disappointed

    BalakrishnaBalakrishna3 күн мурун
  • The writers wanted to make show for big problems and ideas. But Marvel show was not the right format.

    JudessinJudessin3 күн мурун
  • Please do a video on the show One Piece

    Zachary MontgomeryZachary Montgomery3 күн мурун
  • John wasn't a psycho. He had anger issues, yes. A very poor understanding of why captain America was so revered, yes. Had ptsd, yes but was he a psycho definitely not. His anger and frustration was because he found a calling that he really wanted to do well in. He received this title after serving his time in our military. He was highly decorated for dealing with a skirmishes that screwed with him mentally. He wanted to be cap because cap was idolized for the things he did right. He was popular as cap because he was sold as a patriot. He is a patriot of america. In other countries that doesn't buy you much leeway. This made him angry. Even then he expected things that were never promised to him. World wide respect and an avenger. He was neither.

    Darius ColeDarius Cole3 күн мурун
  • I loved every part with Isaiah Bradley in it. But especially when he says " But they've been doing it (erasing our history) for 500 years."

    Ursine ComicGeekUrsine ComicGeek3 күн мурун
  • "Psycho Capt. America" JOHN WALKER DID NOTHING WRONG.

    GM SteelhavenGM Steelhaven3 күн мурун
  • “Extrajudicial killing of a civilian” he was a terrorist bro, he was JUST an accessory in the murder of a US Soldier and blew up a building full of civilians in the last episode.

    akas1255akas12553 күн мурун
  • There is a line in the Civil War book that applies here: "Don't play politics with me, Hill. Super heroes need to stay above that stuff or Washington starts telling us who the super-villains are." - Steve Rogers to Maria Hill. Yes, Falcon technically fits as a super hero for this analogy to be valid. Falcon, and by extension Bucky, need to stay above the politics that is the GRC. It's up to them to hold the actions of USAgent up to scrutiny, and by extension the actions of John Walker's superiors. In many ways, we are seeing an extension of the conflict that was introduced in The Civil War books. The series ending line of 'Be better.' is a call to action, a call for introspection. We are forced to ask just how far should governments, and even super heroes, should go when enacting extrajudicial actions. You just need to trust that someone will hold both accountable to some common ethical standard. I trust Falcon and Bucky on this one, but I don't trust the government in the MCU to do the same. Simply put, we don't have the answers NOW, but we will when we think long and hard on the problem. When we have those answers, we should act on the conclusions we reached.

    Sean CarrollSean Carroll3 күн мурун
  • "Limitless" pls!

    Theodor GrigoreTheodor Grigore3 күн мурун
  • Deep or Dumb?

    C DC D3 күн мурун
    • Dumb. The new Captain America ends the series with a monologue that borderline justifies terrorism. Sam tells the Senators that the flag smashers' grievouses have merits due to their willingness to use violence to defend it. Could you say the same about Nazis or ISIS?

      C DC D3 күн мурун
  • Not a single "americaaaa, fuck yeah". Such disappointment.

    Alexander StanchevAlexander Stanchev3 күн мурун
  • Please do a look into advertising regarding the approach to Innate human nature such as "doctor squash" or "beer commercials"?

    Emmanuel AnugiobaEmmanuel Anugioba4 күн мурун
  • Love this channel because of the learning factor i.e. philosophy. Could you do a philosophical review of "ed wood" or "The Disaster Artist"

    Emmanuel AnugiobaEmmanuel Anugioba4 күн мурун
  • Today's politics ruin everything. Especially the ones that seem we need it. Get over all of it. Falcon in the real world would be like Michael J White/Denzel Washington. He would be recognized everywhere. Stop it. The only reason complications still exist is because the ones that benefit from it can't do better and it's on all sides.

    Toure EvelynToure Evelyn4 күн мурун
  • Corporate Woke.

    Louis CyfearLouis Cyfear4 күн мурун
  • Even the heroes of the MCU operate on thin lines of what is actually judicially right by the law. Sam and Bucky working with Zemo, for example.

    Geekly GoodsGeekly Goods4 күн мурун
    • Don't forget Carter.

      Richard ServelloRichard Servello2 күн мурун
  • In the end it felt like: We have a black Captain America now so raceism is solved instead of answering any of the questions they brougt up.

    Helen AerniHelen Aerni4 күн мурун
  • The entire red hand thing was the biggest misstep of this show it was downright stupid at times they were definitely terrorist and the show trying to “show the other side” is kind of pointless

    edwin justoedwin justo4 күн мурун
  • MCU Falcon/Winter Solider is trying to ask the tuff moral grey question in a watered down way but in now way is it HBOs Watch Men.....so i would say they are teasing it or pulling punches. i do like the fact that they are even trying these dynamics, i enjoyed it

    bobbydrake07017bobbydrake070174 күн мурун
    • have you thought about doing the never.s on HBO???

      bobbydrake07017bobbydrake070174 күн мурун
  • Loved that series

    muscledog666muscledog6664 күн мурун
    • Me too! Some say that last episode was weak but heck I loved it!

      Geekly GoodsGeekly Goods4 күн мурун
  • Isaiah Bradley character I believe is also a representation of the American Eugenics movement(1880 - 1940), in which they believed Melanin(Darker skin) was an inferior gene. The movement sterilized, raped and killed thousands of Africans and African Americans in the pursuit of finding a way to wipe out the "Black" gene with the "Superior" white gene. This eugenics movement was a joint project with Germany in Africa in which the first concentration camps were done initially before Germany eventually moved over to concentration camps of Jewish people in World War 2. Side Note: Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood was also a strong advocate for the Eugenics Movement.

    frozenchickenfrozenchicken4 күн мурун
  • this video is stupid

    SerjohnSerjohn4 күн мурун
  • the more rules humans make the more loop holes they make to get around them meanwhile accountability weeps

    TheCreepyproTheCreepypro4 күн мурун
  • Oh its no accident... this is all leading up to thunderbolts, the very definition of the exception outside the law.

    Ben HinmanBen Hinman4 күн мурун
  • People worked together and there was peace during those 5 years...Just goes to mean that Thanos was right

    M CHM CH4 күн мурун
    • It's crazy how his take lacked morality but also made sense

      Geekly GoodsGeekly Goods4 күн мурун
  • Karli if written a little better could have been such a redeemable character and a martyr to the cause she was fighting for. Great series that was almost perfect.

    Dylan WheelerDylan Wheeler4 күн мурун
    • @C D That was your takeaway? Interesting.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
    • Disney basically believes that a terrorist can be sympathetic as long it is pretty young, white women fighting for open borders. I never got how her terrorist attacks against innocent civilians was so easily chalked up to her being down the wrong path. If Karli was a bald, white man or middle easterner, then the flag smashers would have been treated like Hydra or ISIS.

      C DC D3 күн мурун
  • Philosophy in Falcon and Winter Soldier: terrorism is A-ok as long as you’re not the one being blown up and support their cause.

    Paul MarchanoPaul Marchano4 күн мурун
    • @dexdrako lol, are we going to pick and choose ideologies from old America? Also, defending the murder of civilians? We have nothing else to discuss.

      Paul MarchanoPaul MarchanoКүн мурун
    • we it work for the American revolution fighters so why not.

      dexdrakodexdrakoКүн мурун
  • Y'all should do an invincible season 1 breakdown video. Thanks fam!!!

    Korede AgboolaKorede Agboola4 күн мурун
  • Eric July did a good video on how it's pretty much just woke pandering and the denigration of an original black character in favor of a tokenized hand-me-down.

    Yuri YanuYuri Yanu4 күн мурун
  • should do a show on eugenics and how marvel promoted it!?

    Island_RogueIsland_Rogue4 күн мурун
  • I found Karly a very bad character that isn't likeable at all

    eslam moheslam moh4 күн мурун
  • TBH I find the politics of Falcon and Winter Soldier confused. Sam tells the GRC to do better, but there's no real thought given to what 'better' means. Does it mean having some unblipped refugees sit on the GRC to direct new paths of citizenship? Does it mean better logistical handling of repatriation? And that's in addition to the protag centered morality we see.

    WindonaWindona5 күн мурун
  • Philosophy of American Gods PLEASE! That show is packed with subtext about human psychology and the nature of belief on our perception of reality. Season 1 especially.

    TJ BlaiddTJ Blaidd5 күн мурун
  • DO THE PHILOSOPHY OF TRIGUN! DO THE PHILOSOPHY OF TRIGUN! DO THE PHILOSOPHY OF TRIGUN! DO THE PHILOSOPHY OF TRIGUN! DO THE PHILOSOPHY OF TRIGUN!

    Joao Pedro Lourenco AffonsoJoao Pedro Lourenco Affonso5 күн мурун
  • Liberals always suppose that they'll be "doing better" next time, or this time, but "doing better" is a justification for doing the same failed policy in a way that's palatable to their constituency. It's a conceit of technocracy to suppose that you can tweak policy in a way that it has no negative outcomes, but no matter how you tweak the particular globe spanning actions of an imperialist superpower it will not stop being an empire because you're abusing people nicely. "The crisis on the border" under Biden is emblematic of how liberals use rhetorical changes to rationalize a continuity of policy with the Trump administration. It doesn't matter how marginally better the treatment of migrant children is if you're still keeping them in prison camps.

    Bradford CarterBradford Carter5 күн мурун
  • So the franchise that offers abject impunity to the past and current actions of anyone who is a The Good Guy(TM) with a handwavey 'sadness' at best and at worst having a victim of a character's acts of genocide apologise to them for having the audacity to resist tries to do a Justice and Responsibility show, which rapidly becomes completely incoherent and contradictory. What a surprise.

    UnreasonableOpinionsUnreasonableOpinions5 күн мурун
  • They were TERRORISTS!!

    Jordan MorleyJordan Morley5 күн мурун
  • Please explain the philosophy of where you got that cute sweatshirt!!!

    Viking SummerViking Summer5 күн мурун
  • Does Arendt make any distinction between individuals vs groups or governments vs citizens? I feel like these distinctions can change the way you perceive about what's going on in the "gray zone", and one's moral responsibilities.

    Jeremy MacDonaldJeremy MacDonald5 күн мурун
  • I knew someone was going to deep dive this miniseries! It was so packed full of different political and/or philosophical themes, I was locked in with the dialogue that contained the lines about means to ends myself. Feel like watching it through beginning to end at least one more time. There is much discussion to be had over this show, really well written, I hope all the people involved are able to keep the momentum going through to the next season as Sam faces whatever challenges he's going to have to face in the fight to actually do better. So many systemic hurdles that won't be easy and he's not taking any soldier serum which could be compared to concepts of the ubermensch.

    Rachums McOneRachums McOne5 күн мурун
  • And how we could forget the great New Cap line: "I don't have the answer, but we can do better"... ... really revealing

    Raffaele MacrìRaffaele Macrì5 күн мурун
    • @Raffaele Macrì Here is the other side of that hypothetical: A literally impossible thing has happened, and half the world is just gone. Turned to dust. The survivors have to move on. So, everyone who is left band together to keep the lights on and the food growing. People who previously had nothing now have a place in society. They contribute to the best of their ability and are grateful for the new life they've found. Then, another literally impossible thing happens. A thing no one even dared dream could happen, and everyone is back now. Why should the people who did their best to keep the world going now be suddenly homeless, jobless, even stateless? That's no more just than you're example. They did nothing wrong and everything right. I'm sure from one point of view it looks like giving in to terrorists. But from their point of view, they stepped up and did the right thing and were welcomed when it was convenient. As soon as it was no longer convenient, they were discarded like garbage. I can't speak for anyone but me, but I would be pissed off. Like, really pissed off. Maybe not "firebomb a supply depot" pissed off, but I sure wouldn't lose any sleep if someone else did it.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
    • @Nazael Rahl I like smurfs thing. The point I think Sam was trying to make is that there was some middle ground. Nobody on Earth was responsible for what happened. But it happened. The world had to move on after, and everyone did their best to make it work. I don't think people should have to give up their homes, but it also isn't right to just up and throw out the people that helped keep the world moving in their absence. I think Sam made that point. That they were going to far in the other direction. Remember, Sam was suffering from a lot of the same shit that all the other unblinked(don't know if that's a word lol) people were. The world did in fact owe the displaced people something. It's great that all the people came back, but to simply go back to the way things were isn't justice. Using his platform to encourage leaders to do the right thing and find a more just solution is really all Sam could reasonably do.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
    • @Matthew Harris he didn't forgot about them. but still forced them out of their house (now occupied by someone else), without money (surelly the banks won't have their account frozen for 5 years in that situation) and without hope to get a loan (we can see that with Sam). while they search for a solution that could not exist cause the one they've found was refused by the group that occupied those houses and jobs and Sam... immagine it: you blink your eyes, suddenly 5 years have passed, some of your friends aged and moved on, your house isn't yours anymore, your money disappeared, your job taken by someone else, you will never get a loan even if you try. and the one hope you had, to at least get your house back got destroyed because you were silent and trusting in the society while another group decided to bomb buildings and put people on fire... you stopped karli and stopped the creation of other Karlis... but surely this group now won't stay quiet anymore. in the end the squeecky terrorist wheel got the oil. great message to send: if you find yourself in a tough situation where there is a third party to mediate, bully them till they give you what you want, screw the others.

      Raffaele MacrìRaffaele MacrìКүн мурун
    • ​@Matthew Harris Notion that activists are just voice of the people is simply ridiculous. Majority of population is not interested in radical policies. Flagsmashers, Sam and sctivists in general are just bunch of people who know nothing about the issue outside their ideological presumptions who lecture people who make a living dealing with that issue. Imagine lecturing electrician on how to connect cables and feel justified because your lack of knowledge of how electricity works means you are open to more posibilities like electricity being a liquid carried in tiny buckets by tiny smurfs. As of the dilema in the show, let's say you are run over by a car and became comatose. You wake up in 5 years and find out nobody expected you to wake up, your family moved on, house you build got nationalized and turned into refugee center and all your money is gone. So you go to governments asking to get your property back. Now, your government is GRC so they decide to give it all back since it's yours which naturaly means those refugees can't have it. Now, what is the solution? Should you just give up your life and let bunch of strangers live in your house? Should they just leave because they were simply enjoying benefits of your labor and those benefits are no longer available to them? Are you the victim, are they or it's a little bit of both? Those are pretty complex question but people making this show didn't asked them. They would just presume those refugees are the victims in this situation and them keeping the standart of living they were used to when your property was supporting them is more important than your right to own a property.

      Nazael RahlNazael RahlКүн мурун
    • @Raffaele Macrì Nothing had been stolen from anyone. Nobody knew anyone was coming back. And nobody would have if not for a literal 14 million to 1 shot. I don't think Sam forgot anyone. I think he wanted a solution that took into account that while everyone was back and that was great, things simply were never going to be the same. Karli and the rest of the displaced people did their best to help the world keep turning after the Snap. They had rights too. And when people find themselves in a situation where theyare being stripped of everything, sometimes they do desperate shit. It doesn't mean we can let her continue her campaign. She certainly needed to be stopped. But she also had a very valid beef. If you don't address it, your just gonna get more Karli's.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
  • This show should have been on an episode of deep or dumb. I get what you're saying, but especially given the US political climate of detaining child refugees driven in part by rhetoric that doesn't differentiate between them and economic migrants (who have been boogiemanned into somehow smuggling secret terrorists), having the antagonist in a US based show be a literal refugee mass murdering terrorist is, well, kind of spreading the exact fascist propaganda that the rest of the show is supposed to be against.

    Gahl LiberzonGahl Liberzon5 күн мурун
  • Sovereignty and international law is a nightmare topic to deal with, partly because the people who want to say that sovereign power is basically unrestricted within its own borders basically ignore that foreign states usually only tolerate perceived injustice in the domestic working in one state to avoid creating dangerous situations in the international context (i.e. war and invasion). Once you have civilized conditions over widespread geographic areas that include the establishment of states with laws (or more poetically, once some groups of people exit the state of nature) there's always a coordination game that follows this, since nobody seems to be able to create the conditions of peace (exiting the state of nature) in the international context in the same way. Creating a state of peace in the international context thus seems to fall into that gray area of having to rely on states as good faith actors, even though we want to minimize the dependence on those kinds of people in the regular running of states. It does work nicely for the superhero genre, since it means that you can always embody that dynamic in the interaction of somewhat morally simplified characters that will act out this dynamic. It may also point to the fact that we do need to foster character and attitudes in people that will make them behave within the law, but also for the sake of the law (and hopefully also the good and the right), which may be the small-c conservative tendency embedded in the genre asserting itself also.

    Sebastian OrlanderSebastian Orlander5 күн мурун
  • I’ve seen this. On The Boys.

    David HochstetlerDavid Hochstetler5 күн мурун
  • Weird seems like only human rights exist becose of the state, but becose refuges are statless(anarchist) ,they arent welcome anywhere...guess than better everyone's go anarchy

    ThotSlayerThotSlayer5 күн мурун
  • Sorry if I’m late guys, but what ever happened to Jared? I haven’t seen him in awhile

    I'm HappySavageI'm HappySavage5 күн мурун
  • They tried so hard to make you side with the flag smashers...fail

    TMcgTMcg5 күн мурун
    • Speak for yourself. I can't condone their actions but I absolutely sympathize with their cause.

      Matthew HarrisMatthew HarrisКүн мурун
    • LOL they really did but the writing was so weak sadly there was going to be no way for any of us to really empathize with their cause.

      Geekly GoodsGeekly Goods4 күн мурун
  • Yep, the ultimate based ending would be the abolishment of the Captain America figure. But the nature of a superhero show simply makes it impossible.

    Jeremy BongJeremy Bong5 күн мурун
    • Why? Sam as Cap is a much stronger symbol.

      Richard ServelloRichard Servello2 күн мурун
  • Thank you for putting out pop culture content like this

    Just another commentJust another comment5 күн мурун
  • Civilian? Nico and his terrorist cell bombed an entire building full of people, and he in particular was fine with it, and he and his terrorist cell are in a straight combat situation where they personally targeted John because he carried a symbol on his uniform , and they just finished killing a fellow soldier, that’s no civilian mate, that a enemy terrorist combatant, and no he isn’t unarmed, he’s a super soldier, and no he did NOT surrender, nor did he even give up the rest of the terrorists cell when asked multiple times, which I would also take as a sign of surrendering

    KageNoTenshiKageNoTenshi5 күн мурун
  • Hannah Arendt 👍

    ike ekiike eki5 күн мурун
  • If half of the entire universe was randomly just un-existed then it would be statistically certain that at least one planet would be completely untouched.

    Dyllan AndersonDyllan Anderson5 күн мурун
    • @BenjaminTheRogue yeah, true.

      Dyllan AndersonDyllan Anderson5 күн мурун
    • And some planets completely wiped out.

      BenjaminTheRogueBenjaminTheRogue5 күн мурун
  • Worst antagonist ever?

    Sex GodSex God5 күн мурун
  • Avengers Gitmo... Damn.

    Wiley LynchWiley Lynch5 күн мурун
  • for the algorithm

    BB5 күн мурун
  • The series is trying very hard to push a political narrative, but from a comic book reader's perspective Steve Rodgers is a superhero while John Walker is a supervillain. The difference is the morals, it has always been about the moral compass, but now the idea of what a superhero is depends on politics, not morals. Politics corrupts everything it touches from science to comics to religion. Not a fan of this series because it lacks truth, replacing it by political narrative.

    s vanners vanner5 күн мурун
  • Excellent

    the_obviousthe_obvious5 күн мурун
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